In the latest episode of Something Positive for Positive People, Courtney Brame interviews Ella Dawson, who you probably remember from her badass herpes activism, including her unforgettable TEDx Talk, titled “STIs aren’t a consequence. They’re inevitable.”

They discuss the challenges and emotional labor that comes with activism, plus Dawson’s bisexuality and the stereotypes and erasure of the bi identity.

Stay positive!